out today, ambitious state of the union speech. patricia murphy, is the re-elected barack obama perhaps overreaching? >> well, you know, i think it obviously depends where you're coming from. if you look at what he was talking about, these are a series of smaller initiatives, universal pre-k, the -- talking about the minimum wage. these are things that are actually relatively targeted, relatively narrow. i think some of his more liberal counterparts would like to see him go bigger and bolder. i don't think it was an overreach. i do think it doesn't quite add up. there is no money left in the federal budget for the new initiatives. that's where his new problem was with his speech. >> he says won't raise the deficit. amy holmes, some say ambitious. you say -- >> i agree with patricia. last night's state of the union was surprisingly modest. it was part george jetson, this vision of the future where our cars don't run on gas anymore, but he didn't have any specific proposal on how to accomplish that, other than we'll study it. he talked about an energy security trust led up by ceos